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Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007, 03:36 pm
Coppola nepotism hate

The topic of today's conversation is...which product of Francis Ford Coppola nepotism do you hate the most? Sofia Coppola or Nicholas Cage?

The case for each is as follows.

Sofia Coppola

Sofia's case for Coppola-related twunthood could be made on the basis of her risible acting in the Godfather III, or for the way talented actors like Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson had to struggle to make their performances be felt through Sofia's wading-through-treacle directorial style in Lost in Translation. But on this occasion we'll focus on one film: Marie Antoinette.

Sofia's crimes against directing in Marie Antoinette, this utterly tedious shoefest of a home video of a wank-homage to being rich and pointless, are legion. To list some of them:

- Casting Marianne Faithful, a rock legend, and then not really giving her much to do apart from staring out of windows.

- Casting Steve Coogan, a comedy actor who specialises in over-the-top characters, as a straight-faced courtier.

- The use of punk imagery, to imply that Marie Antoinette was, y'know, kinda punk. Marie Antoinette was not punk. Marie Antoinette was THE FUCKING QUEEN OF FUCKING FRANCE! She represented reaction, conservatism and elitism. This means that there are very few people in history who were less punk than Marie Antoinette. Leonid Brezhnev, possibly. Or Pope John Paul II.

- The ridiculously overlong shots of fountains in the Palace of Versailles, which is supposed to make us thrall at the wonders of the place, but in fact makes us feel like we're being forced to sit through some annoying relative's home movie of their holiday in France.

- Spending stupid amounts of money by hiring top fashion designers to make the dresses and shoes for the film, and a couture baker to bake the cakes. IT'S ON FILM YOU STUPID BINT! We couldn't tell if that was a real cake or if it was a lump of polystyrene with some icing smeared round it!

- Skipping over important historical moments. Depicting the death of her child by changing a painting. Getting a courtier to wander onscreen between parties to say, "Pardon me, your majesties, but the Bastille has just been stormed." What? That's how you're going to portray it? I suppose there can't have been much budget left to film some Bastille-storming after pointlessly spending all that cash on fashion designers and couture bakers.

- Stopping the film before we get to any of that depressing stuff about being imprisoned and beheaded. Might distract from all the shoes, dresses and cake.


Nicholas Cage

In all fairness, Nicholas Cage has done a few good performances, such as Leaving Las Vegas. But eh's also made some godawful films too. Let's concentrate purely on one of those: the Neil laBute remake of The Wicker Man. Quite apart from the sheer stupidity of trying to remake a film where absolutely everybody knows how it ends, they managed to take out every bit of the original that made it work - the rustic charm, the musical soundtrack, the use of British folklore - and replace it with a paranoid fantasy about evil wommyn who want to chop your willy off. Poor old Nic was made to run around blundering into things, punching out women and generally behaving like an annoying arse. The only redeeming feature of the film is that it produced this YouTube video...



...in which out-takes were re-edited into a trailer for a Farrelly Brothers-style comedy. If that was really what the movie was like, I would have probably enjoyed it a lot more. As it was, I wanted to grab Nic Cage and toss him into a flaming Wicker Man myself, and if I see him in the street, I will.

Poll #1082692
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Who's the worst product of Coppola nepotism?

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Sofia Coppola
9 (60.0%)

Nicholas Cage
6 (40.0%)

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
[info]gianduia

I can't watch any movie starring Nicholas Cage. It is something phisical I think, my eyes hurt, my stomach frozes, I feel like puking....

The same happens with Tom Cruise, though....

I wonder what could it be!

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 04:39 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

Common decency?

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
[info]missfahrenheit

I voted Sofia given that she's generally considered the lesser evil- I mean, everyone knows just how much Nicholas Cage sucks, but in reality it's too close to call.

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 05:27 pm (UTC)
[info]chrischopping

I actually really liked Lost in Translation but I've not seen Marie Antoinette. I'm sure you weren't encouraging people to watch the thing but I will have to make it a priority on my rental list now just so I can judge for myself. It does sound pretty lame but I do quite fancy the star.

I also now quite want to watch the Wicker Man but only because I want it to be the comedy as advertised in that trailer.

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 05:36 pm (UTC)
[info]sugar_spun

I'm voting for Sofia Coppola, on the grounds that Nicholas Cage chose to change his name so that he'd get at least part of the way on his own merits.

And because of Marie Antoinette. Kirsten Dunst is one of the most risible actresses on the market at the moment, and giving her a role that required some sense of, I don't know, dramatic ability, was an appalling waste. I'd say the same of giving the project to Sofia, though.

Sun, Nov. 4th, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

Kirsten Dunst is one of the most risible actresses on the market at the moment, and giving her a role that required some sense of, I don't know, dramatic ability, was an appalling waste. I'd say the same of giving the project to Sofia, though.

Indeed. It would have been an appalling waste, were it not for the fact that they'd let Sofia direct. Hence there was no drama for her to ruin.

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 08:45 am (UTC)
[info]sarahofthedead

The case for Nic Cage being awesome: Ghost Rider.

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 12:52 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

I haven't seen Ghost Rider. Is it worse than the Wicker Man?

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 12:53 pm (UTC)
[info]sarahofthedead

Sillier.

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 01:03 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

Sillier than the movie which made Nic Cage run around in a bear costume punching out women?

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 01:04 pm (UTC)
[info]sarahofthedead

Well, yeah. This time, he's a skeleton that goes on fire. On a motorbike. There is no lose in this situation.

Mon, Nov. 5th, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

Yowzers!
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Tue, Nov. 6th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
[info]chrischopping

The Weatherman? I liked him in that.