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Eurobarometer 2015: Same sex marriage support in the EU [726 x 666] (i.imgur.com)

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[–]TheYMan96 44 points45 points  (2 children)

ZUIG DAAROP SVERIGE

[–]japie06 17 points18 points  (0 children)

NEDERLAND LETTERLIJK NUMMER 1

[–]DoktorMantisTobaggan 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Why is there never any data for the Balkan countries?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

They are not members of the European Union. Edit: Sorry I didn't see it says Europe in the actual map. I just read EU in the title and assumed. But my guess is that the national governments don't find a lot of these statistics important and therefore don't make the necessary surveys or the information is hard to come by for non-natives.

[–]DoktorMantisTobaggan 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The map says nothing about the EU, and includes countries that aren't in the EU.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would like to redirect you to my edit.

[–]middlemanmark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the redirect.

[–]Xawjer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The balkans and belrus are uncharted lands

[–]doc_daneeka 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Any idea why support is so high in Spain? I've seen a few other maps that make this clear, and don't know at all enough about their politics to hazard a guess.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Not sure. The country was the third in the world in having full same sex marriage in July of 2005. It was done with the expected opposition of the conservative party and the Catholic Church.

Even if the majority of the conservative people was against back then there was a clear majority for it in the overall society. And at 2005 that wasn't true at many countries.

I am young, but trying to scratch my memory. it also seems that Pedro Almodovar (the cinema director) and a lot of famous people came out in the early 80s also.

I searched for a song from the 80s from Spain and the group did a ( French version that has a wikipedia article, because it was a bigger commotion in France than in Spain). So it comes from a while.

EDIT: Why do you expect something different? People has strange expectation from Spain. This country also has free abortion, and a confessional Christian conservative party in power with a majority in both chambers of the parliament that doesn't want to change any of those things.

[–]doc_daneeka 3 points4 points  (0 children)

EDIT: Why do you expect something different? People has strange expectation from Spain. This country also has free abortion, and a confessional Christian conservative party in power with a majority in both chambers of the parliament that doesn't want to change any of those things.

Because support for gay marriage there is quite significant higher than its neighbours, and more in line with what you find in parts of northern Europe. As I said, I'm not all that familiar with the situation in Spain, so I was curious. Thanks.

[–]heythere1983 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As u/angry_spaniard said Gay marriage was approved by the Socialist government in 2005, with great opposition of the Conservative sectors of the country, including huge demonstrations in most of the province capital cities.

Ten years have passed since Gay marriage was approved, and those who were against it can see it hasn't affected them or the country in any negative way, so now they support it or don't give a fuck about it.

TL;DR: Gay marriage was approved long enough ago that most people realise (even those who initially were against it) that it is no big deal and has no negative effects.

[–]doc_daneeka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rather similar to what has happened here in Canada, where it's been legal for over a decade as well. The Conservative party officially is committed to getting rid of it, but they never made any move to actually do so while in power, and public support for it is extremely high. Because it quite conspicuously didn't destroy our society after all :)

[–]--3-- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is Eurobarometer releasing new poll results? Where can I find them?

[–]joavim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also very interested in this.

[–]TheAtlanticGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"REMOVE HOMOGAY"

-Russia, Ukraine and Moldova

[–]Polnocnyblysk 6 points7 points  (4 children)

28% in Poland? Yeah, of course...

[–]bezzleford 15 points16 points  (0 children)

all my Polish friends are for gay-marriage. Mind you... they are younger and I live in the UK...

[–]Vertitto 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You think it's to big or to small?

[–]gaijin5 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Looks about right. They're still very traditionally Catholic and conservative, the younger generation is changing that though.

[–]garaile64 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That explains the stereotype in Poland ball.

[–]Nimonic 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It very blatantly says Europe, not the EU. Also: Norway, Russia, Ukraine, etc.

[–]solidangle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's older data which they added to fill the blanks. The map is mainly about the Eurobarometer poll which was conducted in the European Union.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Kudos to Spain for being so progressive on the issue.

[–]metroxed 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Spain is actually very progressive in many social issues (same-sex marriage, abortion, etc.).

[–]Tinie_Snipah 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Why exactly is Ireland so in favour of same sex marriage, being the first country to vote it in by popular vote, while still being devout catholics?

(not that that's a bad thing, I think it's awesome)

[–]Bar50cal 20 points21 points  (6 children)

We are not devout Catholics in Ireland. The last census here in 2011 found Ireland to be one of the 10 most atheist countries in the world.

Ireland been a very catholic country is an old stereotype that is not true.

http://www.atheistrepublic.com/tables/top-10-atheist-countries-2012

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/-irish-atheists-increase-by-400-percent-in-ten-years-survey-shows-237949531-239669351.html

[–]Tinie_Snipah -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Weird, never met an Irish person or family that wasn't Catholic

And me and my sister are dating Irish people

[–]Bar50cal 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Been a catholic in Ireland is more of a cultural identity than a religious one.

[–]Blussy96 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ireland have a particularly young population, perhaps this makes an impact?

[–]DreElections 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Partially a large materialistic boom ended much of the image of a devout Ireland where the priest was the highest aspiration a peasant could be, then an enormous humiliation of the religious establishment as huge amounts of priests/parishes/religious schools and institutions were found covering up endemic child abuse and even deaths of infants. Eamon De Valera's parochial image of Ireland has long been shattered.

And as far as gay marriage is concerned, the PM of Ireland, who comes from the rural county of Mayo, is conservative and endorsed it (along with an earlier lambasting of Catholic leadership). That would be like, I dunno, Mitch McConnell endorsing marriage equality.

[–]Bosco_is_a_prick 2 points3 points  (1 child)

priest was the highest aspiration a peasant could be

NO

[–]DreElections 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I exaggerate :)

[–]Bauer091 -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

I don't really trust the new Eurobarometer results... like it says that 80% of Ireland supports and 15% opposes gay marriage, while only 62% supported and 38% opposed it in the referendum this year. Some data seems accurate though (like Germany or Austria) but some are too high in my opinion.

[–]Blussy96 16 points17 points  (4 children)

That's in the referendum though, which requires actually going out to vote, many didn't bother I guess.

[–]Ackenacre 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's still quite a large (and so somewhat unbelievable) discrepancy.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

still better way of collecting data than whatever method this map used to collect data, probably another bullshit survey

[–]AtariBigby 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But if you use the referendum result you're asking a different question for one country and the data is not comparable. The referendum had loads of legal implications which the no side tried to link to surrogacy and children's rights which saw the no percentage increase. Polls before campaigning saw yes in the high 70s but as people became scared, it dropped

[–]Niall_Faraiste 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's hypothetically possible to be in favour of gay marriage but not in favour of the amendment that allowed gay marriage to be legal. Someone could take issue with the wording, or the whole section of the constitution that it was put into.

[–]TheGodBen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The referendum was a complete shit-show and the No campaign lied that the change would negatively impact the laws on adoption and surrogacy. Some people who are mildly in favour of same-sex marriage may have been scared into voting against the proposed amendment for those reasons.

[–]talks2deadpeeps -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't know Russia was part of the EU.

[–]Xawjer -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

TIL 11% of russians are criminals

[–]Tchocky -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

/r/ShittyMapPorn

Either my eyes suck or the top two tiers are indistinguishable