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Autodescription — penis (Q58)

description: primary sexual organ of male animals
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pizzle (Q925901)

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Merge? --Fractaler (talk) 12:50, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fractaler pizzle (Q925901) is about Q8253517.Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 13:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Q58 label "penis" = pizzle (Q925901) (without man) + "man penises"? --Fractaler (talk) 13:25, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article says "The word is used today to signify the penis of an animal" --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Man - animal. pizzle (Q925901) - set, "man penises" - subset? --Fractaler (talk) 13:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
About "the penis of an animal" particulary --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:00, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

has use (P366)

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data transmission --Fractaler (talk) 12:46, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And another meaningless word here by Fractaler. What is this supposed to mean? Why did you post this word here, that doesn't have any connection with a penis? What do you want to discuss? Why don't you ever use sentences? Sänger (talk) 11:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How do you think, why don't wikidata ever use sentences? Only P, Q and so on? Do you understand what wikidata wants to say? I use wikidata's, universal language (for all). here wikidata said you: Q58 had has use (P366). That said wikidata clear? --Fractaler (talk) 12:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You hide behind meaningless mumblejumble and don't say, what you want. A penis has nothing to do with data transmission, why you put this complete nonsense in here, remains your secret. You still didn't say anything about this nonsense, just more useless blahblah. Sänger (talk) 12:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You said 1) "And another meaningless word here by Fractaler". I tried to explain what "== {{P|366}} == data transmission" mean. Now what means "== {{P|366}} == data transmission" clear and we can to do next step? --Fractaler (talk) 14:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you think, a penis is used a a means for data transmission? That's just ridiculous. It's used for peeing and the application of sperms. Sänger (talk) 13:01, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DNA (Q7430) - data? --Fractaler (talk) 13:04, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No. It's always the same with you: You mix concrete and abstract things in an illegitimate way and create havoc. Sänger (talk) 13:56, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You want to say that the genome (Q7020) does not have data? --Fractaler (talk) 14:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I say: It is not data. You proclaim, that sperm is just data. Sänger (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can we ask other participants how they think, genes contains data or not? --Fractaler (talk) 17:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Everything contains data. And whre did you start this discussion in the project chat? I don't see anything there. As you want this strange thing in here, it's up to you to get consensus for this far-fetched item. Sänger (talk) 20:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
While no project chat, because you said "Everything contains data". Set "Everything" has subset "genome (Q7020)". Then genome (Q7020) contains data. Q.E.D. (Q188722) --Fractaler (talk) 14:52, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I mean literally everything contains data, my bag, my hair, your nose, the stones I see outside my window, this is a nullity. Why do you so desperately want to assign such thingies to items, that are at best only very remote connected, that can only relate "von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge" (literally from behind through the breast in the eye)? No this is so far off, and only with a lot of associative thinking remotely useful, it should not be put here. Sänger (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
chaos (Q1787424) contains data? Set "genome (Q7020) data" has subsets "Hair data", "Nose data". What data has bag and stones? --Fractaler (talk) 17:31, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Chaos has lot's of data, just not very well structured. Hair contains data about former drug usage, the nose probably as well, stones contain usually lot's of data, that can be deciphered by geologist and/or palaeontologists, and my bag has a bar code on it, so even machine readable data. An old tree has data about past climates, like a glacier as well, my ingrain wallpaper is probably readable in Braille, but won't make much sense, but it's data. Sänger (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wikidata has not item "lot's of data, just not very well structured", no description for this. From the description we have to understand which tool use for "lot's of data, just not very well structured" transmission. Hair contains data about former drug usage - there are 2 subsets: 1) "an object that used drug" 2) "an object that did not use drug". Your case - only 1). "nose probably" - wikidata has items for your case "probably"? stones contain usually lot's of data - who, how often, what tool use for stone data transmission? my bag - what is a wikidata item for your bag? Who, how often, what tool use "an old tree", "a glacier", "ingrain wallpaper" data transmission? --Fractaler (talk) 12:28, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What#s this all about? You proclaim that a penis is an instrument for data distribution. That's of course utter bullshit, or, if that's of any relevance for a penis, it's relevant for absolutely anything, as absolutely anything distributes data somehow, if you just look at it far fetched enough. Sänger (talk) 13:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
all - I told only about genome (Q7020) data (wikidata has this item). You - about other data (wikidata has not such items). My proclaim that penis (Q58) is channel (Q733553) (instrument): male genome (Q7020) (male source code (Q128751)) through penis (Q58) (channel (Q733553)) -> to women genome (Q7020) (women source code (Q128751)). TRIZ (Q631910). Of course, this is unusual. But after using TRIZ (Q631910), this operation becomes clear. --Fractaler (talk) 14:02, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You proclaim, that the penis is an instrument of data distribution. You want to put this here in WikiData. Where is your reference, that this is a useful property for a penis? Sänger (talk) 17:50, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"penis (Q58) has use (P366) sperm (Q17145) transmission/distribution" - is ok? --Fractaler (talk) 08:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder, what this is all about, all this nonsense you are constantly trying to put into WD. Yes, it's probably fine, that the penis is used for the distribution of sperm, but don't forget urine (Q40924). What are your goals with all this petty stuff? Trying to make authors in WP redundant, and write more articles with bots, i.e. trying to make the wikiverse more useless? Sänger (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is all about has use (P366). Wikidata just compiles facts. "Q58 is used for the transfer of sperm to female organism (Q43445)" is the fact. About urine (Q40924) - for what/whom transfer of urine (Q40924)? For urinalysis (Q842424)? --Fractaler (talk) 08:36, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just for pissing. To let urine flow from the bladder to the toilet. Sänger (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just read your summary for this edit: wikidata - model of the world. That's wrong, WD is a database for facts about items, nothing more. Is you want to change it to something more, you can fork it. Sänger (talk) 05:33, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WD is not a database. But WD uses (P2283) a database, it is true. --Fractaler (talk) 13:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong. WD is the data base to have a coherent data system for the real projects to get coherent data from. Sänger (talk) 13:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
has use (P366) sexual intercourse (Q5873) - is ok? --Fractaler (talk) 08:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One possible use. I still don't get, what you want to accomplish with all this nonsense. Sänger (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
has use (P366) sexual intercourse (Q5873) is nonsense. Ok, then what is not nonsense by you? --Fractaler (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, this in itself is not nonsense, only your futile attempts to press everything and anything in some far fetched relation here in WD is nonsense. That is just irrelevant. Sänger (talk) 17:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. "this in itself is not nonsense" = "has use (P366) sexual intercourse (Q5873)" is ok or not? Fractaler (talk) 19:16, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's plain superfluous, as a lot of you aimless activism. Yes, it is correct, but no, it is not a good property. Sänger (talk) 21:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you still afraid to give examples of "it is correct and it is a good property" by your IMHO? --Fractaler (talk) 13:07, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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