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= January 28 =
= January 28 =
==Updates to [[Bisexual Resource Center]] page==
I'm on the Board of Directors for the Bisexual Resource Center. Kate Estrop is no longer the president of the BRC and I made edits to update the information to the correct person. Jessica (Belle) Silverman became president last year in 2018. I don't understand why my changes were marked as unconstructive.



== what city became the capital of the misson food chain ==
== what city became the capital of the misson food chain ==

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    January 25

    Installing SemanticMediaWiki

    Hi, I tried installing semanticmediawiki but i am getting the following errors. Could someone help

    Install Including extensions... Warning: include_once(/languages/SD_LanguageEn.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\extensions\SemanticDrilldown\SemanticDrilldown.php on line 186

    Warning: include_once(): Failed opening '/languages/SD_LanguageEn.php' for inclusion (include_path='C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/console_getopt;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/mail;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/mail_mime;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/net_smtp;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/net_socket;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/pear-core-minimal/src;C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\vendor/pear/pear_exception;C:\xampp\php\PEAR') in C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\extensions\SemanticDrilldown\SemanticDrilldown.php on line 186 [42d4739254da3789235dd6f2] /kiwi/mw-config/index.php?page=Install Error from line 190 of C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\extensions\SemanticDrilldown\SemanticDrilldown.php: Class 'SD_LanguageEn' not found

    Backtrace:

    1. 0 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\extensions\SemanticDrilldown\SemanticDrilldown.php(145): sdfInitContentLanguage(string)
    2. 1 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\extensions\SemanticDrilldown\SemanticDrilldown.php(100): sdfInitNamespaces(integer)
    3. 2 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\includes\installer\Installer.php(1500): require_once(string)
    4. 3 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\includes\installer\Installer.php(1601): Installer->includeExtensions(MysqlInstaller)
    5. 4 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\includes\installer\WebInstallerInstall.php(44): Installer->performInstallation(array, array)
    6. 5 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\includes\installer\WebInstaller.php(272): WebInstallerInstall->execute()
    7. 6 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\mw-config\index.php(79): WebInstaller->execute(array)
    8. 7 C:\xampp\htdocs\kiwi\mw-config\index.php(38): wfInstallerMain()
    9. 8 {main} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.128.34 (talkcontribs) 2019-01-25T06:33:21 (UTC)
    Sorry, IP user, this is way outside the scope for the page, which is about editing Wikipedia. Please look at meta:Help and go from there. --ColinFine (talk) 09:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    See mw:Extension talk:Semantic MediaWiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating article

    I am trying to create an article in my sandbox (User:Wordcobbler/sndbox/Joseph Harriss) and I would like to do it progressively, i.e., write some text today and come back tomorrow to write some more. Question: how do I save my text? All I see is "Publish changes," but I am not ready to publish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordcobbler (talkcontribs) 15:25, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The best way is the click the "Publish changes". It won't be indexed by search engines, so you can save it without causing any damage for now. We don't mind incomplete articles incubating in userspace. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talkcontribs) 15:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Wordcobbler: The "publish changes" button is horribly miss-named. It used to be called "save." Any reasonable person would think that a button named "publish" would put the article into Wikipedia main space, but that's not what it does. All it does is save your edit into whatever article you are currently editing: in this case your sandbox. The reason for this unfortunate button name is legal: your sandbox is visible to any editor who knows how to find it (not via a search engine) so you have "published" it in the sense of copyright law, and you have licensed its contents with the CC-BY-SA license. The WMF lawyers made us change the button name. -Arch dude (talk) 16:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Clarification regarding the significant third-party coverage required by GNG and WP:NCORP

    I would like some clarification regarding the significant third-party coverage that NCORP and GNG require. I was under the impression that articles that say "yes company is running" or reads like a press release wouldn't count as significant third-party coverage.--Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 17:11, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I agree with your interpretation, Tyw7. By the way, the way Wikipedia works, a specific answer to a specific question is worth a hundred general questions. I presume this is about WP:Articles for deletion/Venus Airlines? I haven't checked the sources, but on the face of it your argument is right: substantial independent sources are required, and what (or how many) aircraft an airline has, doesn't enter into the question. It is up to MilborneOne to find the substantial independent references, if they want the article kept. Note that there is no point in you carrying on arguing there: AFD discussions are not votes, they are opportunities to present the arguments for and against. The admin who closes the discussion will look at the arguments raised, not at who has "won" an argument. --ColinFine (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    ColinFine, yeah kinda. I just wanted to see if I might be interpreting it incorrectly. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 19:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Tax deductible?

    Dear W,

     I would like to know if Wikipedia is a 501C3 effort?  If 'Yes' I would appreciate a receipt for my $150.00 contribution several weeks ago.  If not, I will still support Wikipedia as it has so much great information and has very little bias.  I really enjoy your site.  Thank you, Charles VanderLaan
    
    Yes, according to this page: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tax_Deductibility/en. If you didn't get a receipt, you can try asking via donate@wikimedia.org RudolfRed (talk) 19:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing an Infobox re population: Altadena, California

    In updating population information for the article Altadena, California, I find that the output (see below) of my edit includes "• Estimate (2016) N/A" (bolding added). This is seemingly produced by the software automatically. Rather than have a blank field, I took the initiative and used the population_note field to input:[population_note] "'2016 estimate: 45,001". It wasn't an elegant approach (see "OUTPUT" below); how do editors handle that 'previous year field", normally?

    I. INPUT:

    | population_footnotes      [1]
    | population_total          45,236
    | population_as_of          2017
    | population_density_sq_mi  NaN
    | population_note           2016 estimate: 45,001
    

    II. OUTPUT:

    Population (2017)[3]
    • Total	45,236
    • Estimate (2016) N/A 
    2016 estimate: 45,001 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quisqualis (talkcontribs) 19:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    

    References

    1. ^ "American Fact Finder: 2013-2017 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates". US Census Bureau. Retrieved 25 January 2019.

    2019 Sun Belt conference football references

    Can you fix the reference I made in the category please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 21:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi. I fixed the title in the citation so that it's no longer throwing an error. Is that what you wanted (I'm not sure what you mean by "in the category").--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Ivan Poddubny

    Good morning/afternoon. I have edited a Wikipedia page on an ethnic Ukrainian athlete called Ivan Poddubny(according to Russian spelling). The man is Ukrainian, and was in fact persecuted by the Soviet regime for writing his name in Ukrainian instead of Russian. The correct spelling must be " Ivan Piddubnyj". I have received a message that said that they have reverted my edit. Please correct the name of our heroe, he was a Ukrainian, not a Russian. Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.177.66 (talkcontribs) 2019-01-25T23:04:55 (UTC)

    Hello, IP user. As far as I can see, most or all the sources referenced call him Poddubny/Поддубный, so by the COMMONNAME policy, that is what the article is called. There is a redirect from Ivan Piddubny. Note that righting great wrongs is not among the purposes of Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    There were at least 2 problems with your edit. You did not give an edit summary to explain the reason for your change, and you broke the transclusion of the image into the article (as you were trying to call up a file name which doesn't exist). Wikipedia's convention is to use the name by which the subject is most commonly called in English sources, so it would help if you were able to point to sources to support your change. If there is a dispute regarding the name used, the place to discuss it is on the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:49, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I have just failed when trying to add this commons file - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:In_1921,_Frances_Martineau_Lupton_owned_the_family_mills_and_textile_manufacturing_firm_William_Lupton_and_Sons_-_Est._in_1773_in_Leeds_and_later_Pudsey_(top_crop).jpg - in the "Frank Lupton" section on this page. the file should be under the file of Frank Lupton but it has not worked. please help. Thanks 175.32.165.144 (talk) 23:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I have reverted your edit (which you could have done yourself). If you read Help:Pictures it tells you how to include an image in an article. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    January 26

    Page is protected from creation

    I would like to redirect TVFilthyFrank to Joji (musician) but it is protected from creation. Koyyo (talk) 07:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I removed protection. Ruslik_Zero 17:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Koyyo (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, in the article Luftnachrichten Abteilung 350, I broken image link. I don't know why it has happened. The image definitely exists of Wikipedia Commons, I can see it, but for some reason, it is not linking to it. It is one of a series of image I had built before New Year, one of about 20, and they are all linking fine, but this one isn't for some reason. The image is called File:Luftwaffe Radio Communication Network of VHF and Radar Intercept Out-stations, Signals Regiment South.svg Thanks. scope_creepTalk 15:04, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    There were 2 instances of the image, one immediately after the other but with a slightly different caption. This edit by User:Cyfal changed the capitalisation and broke the transclusion of the image. In one of your later edits you corrected the capitalisation of one instance and that was then working though the other wasn't, but in your next edit you removed the correctly capitalised version and left the wrong version in place. Another editor has now corrected it for you. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:58, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks very much @David Biddulph:
    Sorry, my fault... --Cyfal (talk) 11:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Should there be a category King's College School, Strand?

    I notice the Category:People educated at King's College School, Wimbledon includes people educated at King's College School before it moved to Wimbledon in 1897, e.g. William Henry Preece. I don't know anything about categories, but my finger is itching to remove the claim that he was educated in Wimbledon. Is there a better category? Should there be? TwoTwoHello (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    TwoTwoHello Renaming of category proposed at CfD: Bhunacat10 (talk), 10:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That will be much better. Thank you Bhunacat10. TwoTwoHello (talk) 12:00, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Can this article be used a reference for LGBT rights in Angola?

    Would this article from today change the article a bit on wikipedia: https://www.jurist.org/news/2019/01/angola-decriminalizes-homosexuality-bans-discrimination/ 50.68.237.196 (talk) 17:38, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, IP user, I think it does. Thank you for your contribution. You can edit the article, citing the source with the new information; or if you are not confident doing that, make a suggestion on Talk:LGBT rights in Angola. --ColinFine (talk) 18:32, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree with ColinFine, source looks ok. Note that "approved a new penal code" does not necessarily mean that the law has actually changed yet. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Can someone please add the reference in? Please? Also I would like to point out I find it funny that it says homosexuality is legal in Angola in the LGBT rights in Africa article but not in the Angola article. Apparently maybe the articles need a little tweaking. 50.68.237.196 (talk) 22:50, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That page may be a little to quick, there may be the possibility of a presidential veto of something. I don't know how this works in Angola. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Bio template

    Greetings, wise and gentle folks ... can any of you point me to a template for creation of a biography? I see these pages all the time with a box on the right side for personal data: born, married, spouse, offspring, etc and then on the main space a nice structure with early life, education, etc ... would be much obliged if you'd help out ... would make my task easier and contribute to a better wiki, won't it. Love, M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mecla (talkcontribs) 18:57, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Responded at live help RhinosF1 (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    January 27

    Default sort on Earth shelter

    The page Earth sheltering was moved to Earth shelter. However I noted the "default sort" at the bottom of the page remains "Earth shletering". Should that also be changed to Earth shelter?

    Related, the article Earth house is to be merged into Earth shelter. What happens to the default sort on Earth house? Many thanks, Matthew Ferguson (talk) 09:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    @Matthew Ferguson 57: Earth shelter says {{DEFAULTSORT:Earth Sheltering}}. Capitalization doesn't matter in category sorting in the current software (it mattered years ago). Articles should sort at their real name unless there is reason for another sorting. That means a DEFAULTSORT is often changed after a move. It can be sorted as "Earth shelter" by simply removing {{DEFAULTSORT:...}}. This makes it use the page name for sorting. I'm sure "Earth shelter" and "Earth sheltering" will sort in the same position in all categories it will ever be in so it doesn't actually matter in this case but I would still remove DEFAULTSORT. If Earth house is merged into Earth shelter then the former will become a redirect. Redirects usually have no reason for specifying a DEFAULTSORT but it is possible. The current one is irrelevant anyway since it matches the page name. A DEFAULTSORT for a redirect can especially be relevant if the redirect is placed in categories meant for articles. This is usually not done but see Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    citation

    Maurizio Pollini article, citation 16. 'Hong Kong interview, YouTube, April 2009'. (Just one example is perhaps sufficient.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hembsby (talkcontribs) 10:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Hembsby Could you explain this in a little more detail and link to the article where you see a problem? – I'm not seeing such a citation in Maurizio Pollini: Bhunacat10 (talk), 10:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Publishing finished article

    Hello friends, I am still putting finishing touches on an article, and I save each edited version by clicking on "Publish." Question: what do I do when the article is ready to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordcobbler (talkcontribs) 10:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    When it is ready, paste {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft. You need to read WP:Referencing for beginners to see how reference citations are done. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:13, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for quick reply, but I see two answers to my question. The first, above the task bar, says paste {{AFC submission|||ts=20190127112125|u=Wordcobbler|ns=4}} at top of draft, the second says paste {{subst:submit}}. Are both valid?Wordcobbler (talk) 11:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Wordcobbler[reply]

    • Hi Wordcobbler I'm not sure what task bar you mean but {{AFC submission|||ts=20190127112125|u=Wordcobbler|ns=4}} is the expanded form that {{subst:submit}} will create. You'll notice that is the date and time in the ts= field and the submitters name is added in the u=. So I would advise always just using {{subst:submit}}, or you can add {{User sandbox}} to the top and that will give you a submit button to use when ready. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:57, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The {{submit}} template, when substituted, will fill in the AFC submission template and include appropriate values for the various parameters (including your user name and the time tag), so it is the easiest way to do it. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:57, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    error on "The Matrix" 1999 film page

    in the section containing footnotes 7 and 8 the sentence beginning "The film contains...others EMPHASIS the idea (it should read EMPHASIZE)

    also in the same section: "...AN highly entertaining action movie..." (it should read "A highly entertaining action movie...")(according to Prentiss Hall Reference Guide to Grammar and Usage AN should be used before a vowel or an unsounded H) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.219.245 (talkcontribs) 11:05, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

     Done by Whiteghost.ink, Lourdes 11:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Country retreat

    Country retreat is a term used for many country castles, houses, mansions, and palaces. Can I create an article with examples, or is it too like a dictionary definition?--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Dthomsen8 I would say this required a careful assessment of your sources where this term is used and discussed, against the criteria set out in WP:DICDEF and in particular this section: Bhunacat10 (talk), 09:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    wrong spelling of person's name on their page

    Hi...This is a really simple correction, but we're mystified how to do it. We tried.

    The name of ADRIANNE (Adrianne) Ellis is wrong for her page...when you search for it CORRECTLY (As Adrianne), it says no page, but there is a link to Adrienne Ellis (Adrienne). We're having it corrected on IMDB as well. They also have the wrong birth date for her too. Wiki has that correct.

    We corrected other places on her page where it showed the "e" and corrected that with the "a" but it's not correcting her name to be able to search for it with the correct spelling.

    HOW CAN HER NAME BE CORRECTED WHEN SEARCHED FOR WITH THE CORRECT SPELLING? THANKS!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Ellis URL should show Adrianne...with the "a"

    :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:e000:248c:a900:a9f0:7293:650b:4681 (talk) 21:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    
    I have looked all over the internet. And her name is always spelled with the "e". In fact, when I typed it with the "a", the computer (Google) automatically corrected the "a" and changed it to an "e", on its own. Why do you think that the correct spelling is with an "a"? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    This report, for one, has the "a". What is worrying is that the article has no sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    :::I see that the article is new spelled with an E. But if there is so much confusion among sources, would it be worth adding a redirect from Adrianne Ellis to Adrienne Ellis?--Gronk Oz (talk) 06:18, 28 January 2019 (UTC) Stoopid comment - forget it![reply]

    How can I view the various title changes to an article's title?

    Is there some easy way to see the history / evolution of the changes to an article's title? I want to see how the title of an article has changed over time. I imagine that one way is to look at each and every edit in the "View History" tab. But, is there some easier way? The "View History" tab on some articles can have thousands upon thousands of entries / edits. The article I am referring to, at this moment, is: Schoharie limousine crash. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The log will show changes of title; logs are linked from history. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:58, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. What "log"? Where do I find the log? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The link is near the top of the page when you view the page history. Log. However the one log won't always record all page moves (for example this one). You may need to pull up the full history and search within the page history for " moved". -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:07, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the move log only shows moves from the specified title to another title. Sometimes it's easier to find moves in the page history of the talk page because there are fewer edits. But there is no guarantee an article and talk page are moved together. It may also help to click "What links here" and "Hide links" to find redirects to the page. Old titles often but not always redirect to the current title. There will often be other redirects which are not from page moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    January 28

    Updates to Bisexual Resource Center page

    I'm on the Board of Directors for the Bisexual Resource Center. Kate Estrop is no longer the president of the BRC and I made edits to update the information to the correct person. Jessica (Belle) Silverman became president last year in 2018. I don't understand why my changes were marked as unconstructive.


    what city became the capital of the misson food chain

    i need a answer NOW, please im turning in homework tomarrow about the misson santa barbara i would really like it if i would get a quick response not with smart words i am a dumb :( and even i kno it thank u,. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:301:447D:9DF2:6994:1D6A:8F82 (talk) 03:23, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Not done Please do your own Homework, also the Reference Desk is the correct place to ask for help. Thanks. Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 03:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Help on a new addition

    Did I mess up on editing this? I'm not sure why it's not showing up on Wikipedia. I will have to check the editing FAQs further later, but right now, I am trying to see if I did something wrong here in getting it to show publicly.

    Thank you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TashaJ22/sandbox&action=submit — Preceding unsigned comment added by TashaJ22 (talkcontribs) 17:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    You haven't yet submitted it for AFC review. To do so you would add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft, but before you do that, please read the advice at WP:Your first article. You need independent reliable sources; pages published by the subject organisation do not establish notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]