Wikipedia:城市 論壇 (技術 )
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用 全 名 嘅就要用 wikibooks:yue:;用 短 字 嘅就要用 b:。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2022年 7月 19號 (二 ) 03:45 (UTC)所以 將 所有 「wikibooks:」換 哂做「wikibooks:yue:」就得? ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2022年 7月 19號 (二 ) 03:48 (UTC)用 b:嘅話就直接 啲,因 為 唔知有 冇版係 已 經 用 咗呢個 模 去 用 呢個參 數 嘅。建議 睇返其它喺Category:跨 維基模 嘅用法 先 至 好 改 ,改 咗嘅就要睇埋Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:維基書 ,改 返 好 啲參數 。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2022年 7月 19號 (二 ) 04:38 (UTC)- @Shinjiman:
我 發現 就算改 做「b:」好 似 都 唔得,係 咪因為 佢仲喺incubator,變 咗跳唔到過去 ? ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2023年 5月 11號 (四 ) 13:59 (UTC)彈 過去 incubator唔算係 問題 ,但 每 一 版 有 b:開 頭 嘅全部 彈 過去 有 關 語 言 incubator嘅「頭 版 」就應該係一 個 問題 嚟。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2023年 5月 12號 (五 ) 04:13 (UTC)- @Shinjiman:
係 囉,咁所以 應 該點樣 解決 ? ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2023年 5月 12號 (五 ) 06:03 (UTC)- 噉就
要 報 上 去 Phabricator搵人處理 ,因 為 呢個問題 已 經 超 出 咗粵維做得 到 嘅範圍 (Interwiki-Interlanguage mapping)。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2023年 5月 12號 (五 ) 06:42 (UTC)
- 噉就
- @Shinjiman:
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The Vector 2022 skin as the default in two weeks?[編輯 ]
Hello. I'm writing on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. In two weeks, we would like to make the Vector 2022 skin the default on this wiki.
We have been working on it for the past three years. So far, it has been the default on more than 30 wikis, including sister projects, all accounting for more than 1 billion pageviews per month. On average 87% of active logged-in users of those wikis use Vector 2022.
It would become the default for all logged-out users, and also all logged-in users who currently use Vector legacy. Logged-in users can at any time switch to any other skins. No changes are expected for users of these skins.
About the skin[編輯 ]
[Why is a change necessary] The current default skin meets the needs of the readers and editors as these were 13 years ago. Since then, new users have begun using Wikimedia projects. The old Vector doesn't meet their needs.
[Objective] The objective for the new skin is to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. It draws inspiration from previous requests, the Community Wishlist Surveys, and gadgets and scripts. The work helped our code follow the standards and improve all other skins. We reduced PHP code in Wikimedia deployed skins by 75%. The project has also focused on making it easier to support gadgets and use APIs.
[Changes and test results] The skin introduces a series of changes that improve readability and usability. The new skin does not remove any functionality currently available on the Vector skin.
- The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
- The new table of contents makes it easier to navigate to different sections. Readers and editors jumped to different sections of the page 50% more than with the old table of contents. It also looks a bit different on talk pages.
- The new search bar is easier to find and makes it easier to find the correct search result from the list. This increased the amount of searches started by 30% on the wikis we tested on.
- The skin does not negatively affect pageviews, edit rates, or account creation. There is evidence of increases in pageviews and account creation across partner communities.
[Try it out] Try out the new skin by going to the appearance tab in your preferences and selecting Vector 2022 from the list of skins.
How can editors change and customize this skin?[編輯 ]
It's possible to configure and personalize our changes. We support volunteers who create new gadgets and user scripts. Check out our repository for a list of currently available customizations, or add your own.
Our plan[編輯 ]
If no large concerns are raised, we plan on deploying in the week of October 3, 2022. If your community would like to request more time to discuss the changes, hit the button and write to us. We can adjust the calendar.
Also, if you'd like ask our team anything, if you have questions, concerns, or additional thoughts, please ping me here or write on the talk page of the project. We will also gladly answer! See our FAQ. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
翻譯 :喺兩星 期 內將Vector 2022年版 設 為 預 設 外觀 畫面 ?[編輯 ]
你好。
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關 於呢個 畫面 [編輯 ]
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- The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
新版 目錄 令 穿 梭各個 小節 更 加 容易 。比 起 舊版 目錄 ,讀者 同 編者 用 目錄 跳 去 其他小節 用 多 咗50%。It also looks a bit different on talk pages.新 搜索 欄 易 揾啲,由 一覽度揾啱嘅結果又易啲。喺我哋測試 過 嘅各個 wiki上面 ,整體 開始 揾嘢嘅次數 增加 咗30%。新版 畫面 唔會對 瀏 覽 量 、編輯 量 或 開 户數帶 嚟負面 影響 。橫 跨 各社 羣夥伴 間 ,有 證據 顯示 瀏 覽 量 同 開 户數增加 。
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編者 可 以點改 同 自 訂 呢個畫面 ?[編輯 ]
你可以
我 哋嘅計 劃[編輯 ]
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討論 [編輯 ]
唔該
- @Deryck Chan, @Rainpong, thank you for the comments, your interest in and support for the project! We have found out that there was a bug impacting wikis in Chinese scripts. This is why we have decided to stop the deployment. I'll let you know when we're ready. Best regards, SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月9號 (三 ) 04:58 (UTC)- @SGrabarczuk (WMF) Do you have a link or any other details of the bug? I just switched because I wanted to see the problem, but I don’t know what to look for. Thanks. Al12si (
傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月9號 (三 ) 18:53 (UTC)- Hey @Al12si, I don't remember myself, but I've asked my colleagues. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月10號 (四 ) 02:13 (UTC)
- Hey @Al12si, I don't remember myself, but I've asked my colleagues. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
- 簡譯:
因 為 發現 咗新介 面 處理 漢字 有 問題 ,所以 暫緩將 新 介 面 喺漢字 語 文 站點設定 成 預 設 嘅計劃。唔肯定 實際 問題 係 乜,會 問 同 事 。 翹仔 (傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月11號 (五 ) 09:49 (UTC)
- @SGrabarczuk (WMF) Do you have a link or any other details of the bug? I just switched because I wanted to see the problem, but I don’t know what to look for. Thanks. Al12si (
- 你可以跟
上面 指示 ,開 新 介 面 嚟用。我 開 咗,覺 得 效果 唔錯。 翹仔 (傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月9號 (三 ) 15:29 (UTC)我 改 咗睇過 ,暫時 改 返 ,我 覺 得 @SGrabarczuk (WMF)提 到 嘅問題 (視 乎係乜問題 ,我 唔知)未必 同中 文 有 關 。我 覺 得用 窄熒幕 嘅人(例 如做文字 工作 ,慣用 portrait mode 擺 mon 嘅人)應 該轉下 睇睇,佢哋喺爾方面 嘅測試 可能 唔係好 夠。我 哋頭版 轉 咗新介 面 之 後 比 之 前 仲 要 窄,窄到大使館 嗰段通告 一 行 得 四 五 個 字 (每日 靚畫情況 冇變差 ,只 係 同 而今一 樣 咁差);如果我 哋 go ahead 就一定要改頭版格式先掂。 Al12si (傾 偈 ) 2022年 11月9號 (三 ) 19:29 (UTC)
我見 依 家 連 通常 最後 deploy嘅英文 維基都 deploy咗,希望 佢哋唔係遺忘 咗呢度 。--Rainpong (傾 偈 ) 2023年 1月 21號 (六 ) 05:10 (UTC)- 佢舊
年 11月 嘅講法 係 "there was a bug impacting wikis in Chinese scripts",可能 搞掂個 bug就所有 Chinese scripts版本 一齊 做,唔會出現 原本 預 期 粵維比 中 維行先 嘅情況 。--Ivanlam88 (傾 偈 ) 2023年 1月 23號 (一 ) 02:00 (UTC)
- 佢舊
點 解 加 咗個鼓 勵人翻譯 到 中 文 維基嘅功能 ?[編輯 ]
- 請檢查係毋係“[[zh:
某 標題 ]]”作 怪 ,否 則 認 真 大 劑 !--202.141.212.98(討論 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 01:03 (UTC) 我 都 見 到 (以冇連 Wikidata嘅「陰 目 偵信」做例子 ,有 「英文 」同 「中 文 」兩個 翻譯 連結 ),之 前 唔覺,應 該係最近 新 加 嘅。登 入 先 至 見 到 ,登 出 咗就見 唔到。而中維、英 維呢啲大語種 都 唔見有 。估計可能 係 上 頭 (基金 會 )覺 得 細 語種 獨 有 嘅知識 應 該要畀更多 人 睇到,所以 就鼓勵人將 細 語種 內容翻譯 去 大 語種 ,喺宏觀 角度 有 佢哋嘅道理 ,但 如果用 細 語種 角度 去 諗,而家即 係 喺細語種 地頭 宣傳 叫 人 幫手貢獻 大 語種 ,我 覺 得 係 傷害 緊細語種 。--Alfakwan (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 06:32 (UTC)- 呢個
係 ContentTranslation嘅功能 之 一 ,早 喺2014年 已 經 開始 開發 ,好 耐 之 前 推出咗,唔係新 功 能 嚟。H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 06:44 (UTC) 我 跟住個 例 子 睇,喺我度 淨 係 見 到 「英文 」(喺我度 冇 「中 文 」),撳入去 會 出 翻譯 畫面 。我 喺 「喜好 設定 」 搵到一 個 叫 「Access to start a translation, from the contributions page, the language list, and new page creations.」 嘅選項 ,預 設 係 開 着 。我 都 唔贊同 咁嘅做法。 Al12si (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 06:48 (UTC)回 覆 H78c67c:就算個 功 能 推出好 耐 ,但 之 前 一路都冇強加畀人,所以 問題 關 鍵 就係佢而家 唔知點 解 由 預 設 關 閉改成 預 設 開 啟 ,同 埋 並 唔係所有 語種 統一 去 推行,大 語種 都 未 有安 排 改 成 預 設 開 啟 。--Alfakwan (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 06:53 (UTC)- @Alfakwan:
我 啱啱摷咗一 陣 ,發覺 呢個功 能 相關 資料 真 係 少 得 淒涼。呢個功 能 似 乎叫做「gray link(s) panel」,mw:Content translation/Product Definition/Entry points#Surfacing lacking languages有 介 紹。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 06:56 (UTC)
- @Alfakwan:
- @Al12si: 睇返2019
年 嘅commit f171aaa,粵維嗰陣呢個選 項 嘅預設 閂 咗嘅。最 衰 個 file太 多 改 動 ,開 唔到個 blame嚟睇係 邊 個 改 咗佢。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:05 (UTC)- 揾到喇,
係 啱啱星 期 四 UTC 08:15 deploy 嘅Change 889656將 呢個功 能 改 為 預 設 開 着 嘅。詳 情 請睇phab:T304865。H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:09 (UTC)- 咁大
改 動 都 唔放 tech news... ugh... Al12si (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:10 (UTC)- 呢個task
係 專 為 粵維而開,居然 完全 冇同粵維社 群 溝 通過 。--Alfakwan (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:15 (UTC)- @Alfakwan:佢哋
認 為 Wikipedia:城市 論壇 _(技術 )/歸 檔/2022年 6月 #Enabling_Content_and_Section_translation_tool_in_Cantonese_Wikipedia算 係 溝 通 咗。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:21 (UTC)原 來 係 噉。可能 大家 對 「enable」個 定義 有 落差 啦。喺我眼中 Content translation已 經 enable咗畀人 用 好 耐 ,想 用 嘅可以自己 開 嚟用,但 佢近期 嘅動作 係 「所有 粵維註冊用 戶 預 設 開 啟 」(default enable for all yue wiki registered users),我 又 唔覺佢舊年 6月 個 通知 有 提 及過會 用 呢種方式 推行。(講 明 先 :我 自己 未 試用 過 Content translation,一路以為佢只係方便人由其他語言翻譯去粵維,冇諗過 會同 時 叫 人 由 粵維翻譯 去 其他語 言 。)--Alfakwan (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 07:38 (UTC)- 嘩!咁難
得 有 個 契機 ,請有能力 及技術 保護 自己 嘅管理 員 (其實本 用 户都有 啲驚……)順 便 勸 喻維基 媒體 基金 會 處理 谷 歌 打 壓 粵文版 維基百科 呢個嚴重 問題 ,請睇「https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%9F%8E%E5%B8%82%E8%AB%96%E5%A3%87_(%E9%9B%9C%E9%A0%85)#%E8%B0%B7%E6%AD%8C%E7%8E%A9%E5%BC%84%E4%B8%AD%E5%85%B1%E9%86%9C%E8%81%9E%E4%BE%8B%E5%AD%90」及「https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Universehk#%E9%80%A3%E7%B5%90%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E6%95%B8%E6%93%9A」,有 齊 客觀 證據 !以前 有 檔香港 傳 媒 可能 會 關心 ……--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 2月 18號 (六 ) 08:16 (UTC)
- 嘩!咁難
- @Alfakwan:佢哋
- 呢個task
- 咁大
- 揾到喇,
大家 認 為 「gray link(s) panel」功 能 應 唔應該喺粵文維基預 設 開 啟 ?- 如果粵文維基
社 群 主流 意見 認 為 唔應該預設 開 啟 「gray link(s) panel」功 能 :- 如果
技術 上 有 得 獨立 閂 「gray link(s) panel」,可 唔可以安排 粵文維基預 設 閂 呢個功 能 ,有 需要 嘅用戶 可 以自己 去 開 ?(唔影響 「Content and Section translation tool」其他功 能 ) - 如果
技術 上 冇得獨立 閂 「gray link(s) panel」(綑綁「Content and Section translation tool」),可 唔可以安排 粵文維基撤回 預 設 開 啟成 個 「Content and Section translation tool」,有 需要 嘅用戶 可 以自己 去 開 ?
- 如果
--Hkzense (
要 預 設 閂 咗呢個 功 能 嘅「無私 」原因 ,係 佢專門 鼓 勵啲生 手 用 户一 時 興起 以此練習 ,無 意 間 製造 錯漏,誤 人 子弟 ,同時 阻礙正確 嘅原文 曝光;「中 」文 版 維基百科 充 斥英譯 「中 」嘅長篇 半 機 翻 垃圾,資 深 嘅粵文 版 維基百科 編輯 者 ,都 唔會噉樣累 街 坊 兼 丢自己 架 。英譯 粵作品 以Dr. Greywolf嘅最多 (亦 似 乎係最 佳 ……),可 以對照 。--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 2月 19號 (日) 03:25 (UTC)- 其實維基
媒體 基金 會 嘅職員 好 明白 ,內容增長 速度 減 慢嘅主要 原因 ,係 政商 打 手 勢力 過大 ,家 陣 為 咗做騷,竟然扮 懵,走 嚟打僅餘淨土 嘅主意 ,借 善男 信女 之 手 玩「misinformation」!人心 叵測……--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 2月 19號 (日) 03:31 (UTC)
- 其實維基
我 正 想 報告 問題 ,就見到 原 來 已 經 討論 緊。話 說 我 入 去 《表 演 》一 版 (注意 :而家係 睇唔返 我 當時 睇到嘅情況 ),見 到 零 零 舍 舍 得 「中 文 」一 個 連結 ,覺 得 好奇 怪 ,無 理由 呢個概念 只 係 得 中 文 版 。後尾 先 至 搞清楚 個 連結 原 來 並 唔係連去 中 文 版 ,而係叫 人 翻譯 去 中 文 版 ,因 為 篇 文 未 連 Wikidata。當 我 將 篇 文 連 過去 對應 嘅Wikidata項目 後 ,「中 文 」連結 先 至 變成 連去 中 文 版 。我 認 為 「第 啲話」呢一欄理應純粹擺放已經有其他語言版本嘅文章連結,而唔係 擺放叫 人 翻譯 去 其他語 言 版本 嘅連結 。雖然話 翻譯 連結 用 灰色 去 識別 ,但 如果唔細心 睇都唔容易 分 辨 ,當 見 到 有 個 「中 文 」連結 ,要望 真 啲先至 知道 究竟 係 代表 已 經 有 中 文 版 定 只 係 叫 人 翻譯 去 中 文 版 。我 唔認同 要 搞到咁複雜 ,希望 可 以為所有 人 恢復 原狀 。--XRTIER (傾 偈 ) 2023年 2月 19號 (日) 09:19 (UTC)本 用 户之前 可能 錯怪咗佢哋;話 唔定係 樂觀 到 離 譜 嘅人好 心 做壞事 啫。其實,只 要 肯認真 諗下,都 知道 唔理係 焉啲話 ,鼓 勵人將 某 篇 文 由 有人 打 理 嘅地方 ,直譯 去 冇人打 理 嘅地方 ,結果 好 極 有限 ;當然 ,睇唔明 官話 白話 文 嘅人,未必 會見 到 咁多嚇死人 嘅實例 。至 於人機 合一 嘅跨國 「disinformation」亂 象 ,實在 深 不可測 ,應 該暫時 擱置。--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 2月 21號 (二 ) 09:58 (UTC)
A reply to "Why did you add a function to encourage people to translate to the Chinese wiki?"[編輯 ]
Hello Cantonese Wikipedians,
I am Uzoma Ozurumba, a Community Relations Specialist supporting the Language team.
I apologise for our permanently enabling Content and Section Translation to your Wikipedia which surprised you. We announced our plans to permanently enable these tools in your Wikipedia last year, and there was no objection from your community. A minor blocker delayed the enablement until now that the tool is enabled.
From your conversation here, I can see you are worried about this enablement in your Wikipedia. I want to explain that Content translation already exists as a beta feature in your Wikipedia, but now it can be discovered by more contributors. However, users not interested in the translation tool can disable it from their preferences.
The Section translation tool is an improvement of the Content translation that allows translators to easily translate with their mobile device one section at a time.
Once again, I apologise for this oversight, and I would like to get your feedback and questions about the tool and the enablements.
Best regards
UOzurumba (WMF) (
- 呢度
係 粵文維基,淨 係 睇個名 都 知 ,大家 寫 嘅係粵文,唔係英文 。我 唔理你哋咩原因 ,你哋要 上 嚟呢度 講 嘢,要 有效 ,唔該你解決 你嘅語 言 問題 ,至 少 畀人睇得明 ,唔係老 奉 噉貼一大餅英文上嚟好冇?尤 其是好 似 「Content translation tool」事件 噉,你哋貼完 英文 上 嚟,大家 睇唔明 ,冇回應 ,你哋居然 當 大家 同意 !你哋唔好再 野蠻 啲?! - This is Cantonese wiki, as the name implies, we're writing in Cantonese, not English. I don't care what your reason is, if you want to communicate with us, you should solve your language problem and write Cantonese, at least let people know what you mean, instead of posting a bunch of English words, okay? Especially in the case of the "Content translation tool", you posted English, people could not understand it, no response, and you took it as an agreement! Please don't be barbaric! (the English sentences are translated by DeepL)
- 呢度
- ——咪用
實際 上 係 錯別字 嘅偽本字 嚟扠禍 粵文。Cangjie6 (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 27號 (四 ) 06:29 (UTC)- 你睇唔明就收
皮 過 主 laa。 RZuo (傾 偈 ) 2023年 9月 17號 (日) 11:58 (UTC)- 粵文
係 粵維嘅工作 語 言 ,英文 唔係。喺粵維用粵文天 經 地 義 ,喺粵維用英文 係 違反 粵維本來 嘅環境 。我 指出 呢個問題 ,你居然 鬧我「收 皮 」「過 主 」?如果我 眞 係 「睇唔明 」,會 回 應 到 佢咩?但 我 睇得明 都 好 ,唔代表 佢哋有權 違反 粵維嘅作業 語 言 ,然 後 老 奉 咁屈大家 唔回應 就係同意 。佢哋有 錯,我 如實 指出 嚟,你憑乜嘢鬧我「收 皮 」「過 主 」? ——咪用實際 上 係 錯別字 嘅偽本字 嚟扠禍 粵文。Cangjie6 (傾 偈 ) 2023年 9月 18號 (一 ) 00:45 (UTC)
- 粵文
- 你睇唔明就收
建議 限 制 使用 Content translation tool[編輯 ]
唔知而
為 粵文維基百科 引入「extended confirmed users」,條件 係 註冊夠30日 、編輯 夠500次 (條件 係 咪跟到足 英 維可以再傾 ),只 有 粵文維基百科 嘅「extended confirmed users」先 至 可 以喺粵文維基百科 用 Content and Section translation tool- 粵文維基百科預設關閉Content and Section translation tool,
非 「extended confirmed users」唔可以手動 開 ,而「extended confirmed users」可 以手動 開
@Hkzense、Alfakwan、H78c67c、Al12si、XRTIER: 唔知
對 方 出 嘅牌係 :「以前 」得 到 咗默認 共 識……我 方 似 乎要跟英文 版 慣例 行事 ,來 次 投票 ,強調 有 「新 」動議 要求 改變 現狀 ,避免將 佢定義 為 「還 原 」!掌 權 嗰班人 有 啲長年 扮 純情 ……--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 7月 2號 (日) 07:12 (UTC)--49.176.167.107(題 外 話 :有 時 真 係 覺 得 氣 餒;花 咁多功夫 理解 人 哋啲陰 招,到頭 嚟可能 只 係 幫谷歌 賺多咗啲廣告 費 。討論 ) 2023年 7月 2號 (日) 08:29 (UTC)第 一冇回應可以理解做「默認 共 識」,都 可能 係 「默認 冇共識」,而後者 就應該要按兵不動 或 者 保持 不變 。佢噉樣 話 「得 到 咗默認 共 識」,係 老 屈 。第 二 ,粵維嘅工作 語 文 係 粵文,佢哋根本 冇人用 過 粵維有效 嘅工作 語 文 嚟同粵維溝 通 ,一大堆外語撻落嚟,粵維嘅人老 奉 要 處理 ?佢憑乜嘢擅自認 為 「得 到 咗」共 識?——咪用實際 上 係 錯別字 嘅偽本字 嚟扠禍 粵文。Cangjie6 (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 2號 (日) 19:17 (UTC)
同意 唔好自動 開 着 呢個功 能 俾所有用 戶 ,起 碼要有 少少 經驗 先 。對 我 嚟講CX最大 問題 係 周圍 有 太 多 「廣告 」想 人 用 ,但 啲機械 翻譯 係 廢 嘅(所以 卒 之 停 用 咗),格式 、連結 又 唔識自動 搬,其實只 不 過 係 個 glorified side-by-side editor。而家嘅設計 搞到新人 加入 就想人 由 零 開始 翻譯 篇 文 ,但 好 多 人 根本 唔識 wikitext語句 ,甚至對 粵文同 百科嘅語調唔熟悉;搞咁多 嘢最終 要 其他人 執 手 尾 。實際 執行 方面 ,我 覺 得 就算調教 到 要 autoconfirmed都 夠——WMF似 乎唔鍾意幫細語種 加 extendedconfirmed(見 phab:T336343等 )。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 7月 7號 (五 ) 14:38 (UTC)- @H78c67c:
話 時 話 ,粵維translate可 唔可以開返 machine translate?之 前 用 過 幾 好 用 ,用 用 吓無咗... ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 7號 (五 ) 14:53 (UTC)- @H78c67c:
所謂 glorified side-by-side editor,其實有 個 名 ,叫 CAT,係 專業 人員 先 識用嘅嘢,佢哋硬 推畀普通 人 其實有 啲怪,況 且,(根據 佢哋喺 Phabricator點 答 過 我 )佢哋連 CAT係 乜都未 聽過。 Al12si (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 7號 (五 ) 20:00 (UTC) - @Z423x5c6:你之
前 係 咪用開 佢內置 嘅 Google Translate,翻譯 咗做中 文 先 ?閂 咗機械 翻譯 嘅原因 係 佢哋之 前 硬 推嘅 NLLB-200出 嘅翻譯 錯到七彩 ,@Al12si同 我 走去 投 訴,搞到佢哋索 性 閂 曬啲機 翻 算 。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 7月 7號 (五 ) 22:56 (UTC)- @H78c67c:
我 用 NLLB-200再 人手 改 啊,印象 中 Google無 得 譯 做廣東 話 ? ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 8號 (六 ) 04:10 (UTC)- 噉樣aa4。如果你覺
得 NLLB-200有用 嘅話,我 估我哋可以叫佢哋開 返 嘅...之 但 係 一定一定唔可以預設開俾新人用,otherwise我 無 所謂 。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 7月 13號 (四 ) 05:04 (UTC)- 如果
可 以開返 就好啦。無 理由 因 為 幾 粒 老 鼠 屎,搞到大家 都 無 得用 。如果set做confirmed user先 用 得 應 該ok? ——Z423X5C6(傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 13號 (四 ) 15:22 (UTC)
- 如果
- 噉樣aa4。如果你覺
- @H78c67c:
- @H78c67c:
- @H78c67c:
- 其實CX
促成 嘅低質 翻譯 ,影響 唔止係 噉。除 咗要人 執 手 尾 之 外 ,WMF其實會 集 齊 啲 sentence pairs釋 出 做語 料 庫 (mw:Content_translation/Published_translations#Parallel_corpora),執 唔切嘅話啲低質 翻譯 就會自動 俾其他 project pick up,然 後 佢哋會 用 呢啲低質 原料 整 低質 機 翻 。 H78c67c·傾 偈 2023年 7月 7號 (五 ) 22:50 (UTC)除 咗低質 翻譯 外 ,ContentTranslation本身 缺陷 多多 ,另一 個 討論 話題 「ContentTranslation唔識連 Wikidata」都 已 經 提 過 ,翻譯 完 又 唔識連結 去 翻譯 來 源 嘅Wikidata項目 ;建議 人 做翻譯 嗰陣又 無視 對應 嘅Wikidata項目 已 經 有 粵文版本 而照叫 人 重 新 翻譯 。預 設 開放 畀所有人 用 係 個 好 錯誤 嘅決定 。--Espotono (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 10號 (一 ) 07:20 (UTC)應 該對所有 人 預 設 為 閂 咗,不 過 可 以鑲個 開 關 制 喺唔顯 眼 嘅地方 ;正 如喺間 屋入 面 ,一般大人唔會擺切肉刀、老 鼠 藥 及通渠 水 等 工具 喺兒童 玩具 側 邊 ,不 過 未 至 於要將 佢哋鎖 起 嚟。--49.176.167.107(討論 ) 2023年 7月 14號 (五 ) 18:15 (UTC)
- 唔知
點 解 我 收 唔到ping通知 ,好 彩 都 見 到 個 討論 。我 同意 對 所有 人 預 設 閂 (還 原 到 2023年 2月 中旬 之 前 嘅狀態 ),亦 同意 為 自己 開 返 個 功 能 加 個 門 檻 。而家粵維autoconfirmed只 係 註冊4日 同 10次 編輯 ,如果用 autoconfirmed做門檻 ,老實 講 效果 相當 有限 ,不 過 既 然 上面 討論 提 到 粵維好 難 爭 取 另開extendedconfirmed,所以 唯 有 勉強 接受 用 autoconfirmed做門檻 。--Hkzense (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 23號 (日) 13:29 (UTC)
- 雖然
將 Vector 2022設 成 預 設 外觀 係 解決 咗一開頭提到嘅問題,但 今次 只 可 以話係 「咁啱得 咁橋」,而唔係 WMF聆聽粵文維基社 群 意見 後 主動 撤回 。--Hkzense (傾 偈 ) 2023年 8月 19號 (六 ) 14:11 (UTC)
模 分類 求 助 [編輯 ]
取消 Template:Location_map_xxx[編輯 ]
Graph extension disabled[編輯 ]
Yesterday the Wikimedia Foundation noted that in the interests of the security of our users, the Graph extension was disabled. This means that pages that were formerly displaying graphs will now display a small blank area. To help readers understand this situation, communities can now define a brief message that can be displayed to readers in place of each graph until this is resolved. That message can be defined on each wiki at MediaWiki:Graph-disabled. Wikimedia Foundation staff are looking at options available and expected timelines. For updates, follow the public Phabricator task for this issue: T334940
--MediaWiki message delivery (
跳 轉 分類 模 [編輯 ]
我 曾經喺英維幫手 處理 過 呢啲模 。如果有人 幫手喺粵維tag晒 啲跳轉 ,我 樂 見 其成。Twinkle好 似 有功 能 可 以用嚟 tag跳 轉 ? 翹仔 (傾 偈 ) 2023年 7月 21號 (五 ) 15:03 (UTC)
簽名無 就噉【U:名 】?[編輯 ]
Automatic citations based on ISBN are broken[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Apologies if this message does not reach you in your favorite language. You can help translate it centrally at Meta. Thanks for your help.
We have recently become unable to access the WorldCat API which provided the ability to generate citations using ISBN numbers. The Wikimedia Foundation's Editing team is investigating several options to restore the functionality, but will need to disable ISBN citation generation for now.
This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts, such as the autofill button on refToolbar. Please note that all the other automatic ways of generating citations, including via URL or DOI, are still available.
You can keep updated on the situation via Phabricator, or by reading the next issues of m:Tech News. If you know of any users or groups who rely heavily on this feature (for instance, someone who has an upcoming editathon), I'd appreciate it if you shared this update with them.
Elitre (WMF), on behalf of the Editing team.
MediaWiki message delivery (
ContentTranslation唔識連 れん Wikidata[編輯 へんしゅう ]
- 其實
印象 いんしょう 中 ちゅう 之 の 前 ぜん 係 かかり 會 かい 自動 じどう 連 れん ,唔知點 てん 解 かい 反 はん 而依家 か 退步 たいほ 咗。 ——Z423X5C6(傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 5月 がつ 13號 ごう (六 ろく ) 10:10 (UTC)
除 じょ 咗唔識連Wikidata,ContentTranslation可 か 以話係 がかり 完全 かんぜん 唔理Wikidata。譬 たとえ 如有樣 さま 嘢個名 めい 叫 さけべ A或 ある 者 もの B,粵文已 やめ 經 けい 用 よう 咗A個 こ 名 めい 開 ひらき 版 ばん 並 なみ 連結 れんけつ Wikidata,當 とう 有人 ゆうじん 想 そう 開 ひらけ B時 とき , ContentTranslation一樣會叫人試下翻譯第二個語言嘅A,而唔識話「呢樣嘢已經 けい 有人 ゆうじん 開 ひらき 咗叫A嘅文,應 おう 該將B跳 とべ 轉 うたて 去 さ A」,可能 かのう 會 かい 導 しるべ 致人重 おも 覆 くつがえ 開 ひらき 文 ぶん 。--Espotono (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 5月 がつ 25號 ごう (四 よん ) 05:48 (UTC)本來 ほんらい ContentTranslation唔應該開畀新手 しゅ 用 よう ,實 じつ 有 ゆう 好 こう 多 た 手 て 尾 お 要人 ようじん 跟,所以 ゆえん 我 わが 一 いち 直 ちょく 都 と 好 こう 反對 はんたい WMF「預 あずか 設 しつらえ 開 ひらけ 啟 けい 」呢個功 こう 能 のう 。--Hkzense (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 6月 がつ 10號 ごう (六 ろく ) 02:39 (UTC)
Internal Link Helper[編輯 へんしゅう ]
mw.loader.load("https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:H78c67c/internalLinkHelper.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
@import url('//zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:H78c67c/internalLinkHelper.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css');
H78c67c·
已 やめ 經 けい 加 か 咗介面 めん 管理 かんり 員 いん 權限 けんげん 三 さん 個月 かげつ ,過 か 咗期之 の 後 こう 如果再 さい 有 ゆう 需要 じゅよう 嘅話請再出 で 聲 ごえ 。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2023年 ねん 5月 がつ 29號 ごう (一 いち ) 00:48 (UTC)- @Al12si: You might be interested in this. H78c67c·
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ 2023年 ねん 6月 がつ 9號 ごう (五 ご ) 22:32 (UTC)
用字 ようじ 變換 へんかん [編輯 へんしゅう ]
啱啱
功 こう 能 のう 說明 せつめい :如之前 ぜん 所說 しょせつ 嘅,此次部署 ぶしょ 嘅YueConverter僅有對 たい 睇嘢操作 そうさ 部分 ぶぶん 提供 ていきょう 繁 しげる =>不 ふ 轉換 てんかん 及繁=>簡係單向 たんこう 轉換 てんかん 。-- Winston Sung (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 5月 がつ 30號 ごう (二 に ) 03:46 (UTC)- @Winston Sung:其實
既 すんで 然 しか LC咁多bug,點 てん 解 かい 仲 なか 要 よう 夾硬推行呢?而家諸多 しょた 問題 もんだい 要 よう 成 なり 個 こ wiki無 む 了 りょう 期 き 等 とう 你哋整 せい ,點 てん 解 かい 唔鏟走 はし yue LC,喺其他 た wiki度 ど 施 ほどこせ 施 ほどこせ 然 しか 整 せい 好 こう 咗先再 さい 加 か 返 かえし 呢?況 きょう 且本來 ほんらい 呢個功 こう 能 のう demand唔大,個 こ JavaScript架 か 生 せい 都 と 夠曬用 よう ,我 わが 真 しん 係 がかり 唔明搞啲噉嘅嘢出嚟係為 ため 乜。 H78c67c·傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ 2023年 ねん 6月 がつ 13號 ごう (二 に ) 00:14 (UTC) 個 こ JavaScript架 か 生 せい 應 おう 唔得處理 しょり 流動 りゅうどう 版 ばん 。 122.100.75.52(討論 とうろん ) 2023年 ねん 6月 がつ 17號 ごう (六 ろく ) 04:32 (UTC)
- @Winston Sung:其實
流動 りゅうどう 版 ばん Converter有 ゆう bug?[編輯 へんしゅう ]
@Winston Sung:
係 かかり 已 やめ 知 ち bug。「Missing in不 ふ 轉換 てんかん 」係 がかり zh嘅變體 へんたい 名稱 めいしょう ,係 かかり ContentTranslation嘅問題 もんだい ,與 あずか LanguageConverter無關 むせき 。 122.100.75.52(討論 とうろん ) 2023年 ねん 6月 がつ 17號 ごう (六 ろく ) 04:31 (UTC)之 これ 前 ぜん ContentTranslation明 あかり 明 あかり 話 ばなし 「所有 しょゆう 粵維註冊用 よう 戶 と 預 あずか 設 しつらえ 開 ひらけ 啟 けい 」(default enable for all yue wiki registered users),乜原來 らい 流動 りゅうどう 版 ばん 仲 なか 靜 しず 雞雞將 はた ContentTranslation開放 かいほう 埋 うめ 畀未註冊(未 み 登 とう 入 いれ )用 よう 戶 と ,有 ゆう 冇離譜 ふ 啲呀?不 ふ 過 か 而家LanguageConverter已 やめ 經 けい 停 とま 用 もちい ,暫時 ざんじ 見 み 唔到莫名奇妙 きみょう 嘅「Missing in不 ふ 轉換 てんかん 」,我 わが 都 と 費 ひ 事 ごと 追究 ついきゅう 。--Hkzense (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 7月 がつ 23號 ごう (日) にち 13:19 (UTC)
我 わが 整 せい 咗Template:元素 げんそ 嘅鹽,應 おう 該無咩問題 もんだい ,歡迎 かんげい 公 こう 測 はか 吓,並 なみ 且幫手 しゅ 將 はた 原本 げんぽん 啲版換 かわ 晒 さらし 佢[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Announcing the new Elections Committee members[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello there,
We are glad to announce the new members and advisors of the Elections Committee. The Elections Committee assists with the design and implementation of the process to select Community- and Affiliate-Selected trustees for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. After an open nomination process, the strongest candidates spoke with the Board and four candidates were asked to join the Elections Committee. Four other candidates were asked to participate as advisors.
Thank you to all the community members who submitted their names for consideration. We look forward to working with the Elections Committee in the near future.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees,
RamzyM (WMF) 2023
The Vector 2022 skin as the default in two weeks[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello. I'm writing on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. In two weeks, we would like to make the Vector 2022 skin the default on this wiki.
If you prefer keeping the current skin, select "Vector legacy (2010)" in global preferences and save the change.
We have been working on it for the past three years. So far, it has been the default on more than 300 wikis, including most Wikipedias and some sister projects. This accounts for more than 4 billions pageviews per month.
It would become the default for all logged-out users, and also all logged-in users who currently use Vector legacy. Logged-in users can at any time switch to any other skins. No changes are expected for users of these skins.
About the skin[編輯 へんしゅう ]
[Why is a change necessary] The current default skin meets the needs of the readers and editors as these were 13 years ago. Since then, new users have begun using Wikimedia projects. The old Vector doesn't meet their needs.
[Objective] The objective for the new skin is to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. It draws inspiration from previous requests, the Community Wishlist Surveys, and gadgets and scripts. The work helped our code follow the standards and improve all other skins. We reduced PHP code in Wikimedia deployed skins by 75%. The project has also focused on making it easier to support gadgets and use APIs.
[Changes and test results] The skin introduces a series of changes that improve readability and usability. The new skin does not remove any functionality currently available on the Vector skin.
- The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
- The new table of contents makes it easier to navigate to different sections. Readers and editors jumped to different sections of the page 50% more than with the old table of contents. It also looks a bit different on talk pages.
- The new search bar is easier to find and makes it easier to find the correct search result from the list. This increased the amount of searches started by 30% on the wikis we tested on.
- The skin does not negatively affect pageviews, edit rates, or account creation. There is evidence of increases in pageviews and account creation across partner communities.
[Try it out] Try out the new skin by going to the appearance tab in your preferences and selecting Vector 2022 from the list of skins.
How can editors change and customize this skin?[編輯 へんしゅう ]
It's possible to configure and personalize our changes. We support volunteers who create new gadgets and user scripts. Check out our repository for a list of currently available customizations, or add your own.
Our plan[編輯 へんしゅう ]
If no large concerns are raised, we plan on deploying on August 9, 2023. If you'd like ask our team anything, if you have questions, concerns, or additional thoughts, please ping me here or write on the talk page of the project. We will gladly answer! Also, see our FAQ. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
Deploying the Phonos in-line audio player to your Wiki[編輯 へんしゅう ]
你好!
Apologies if this message is not in your language, 請幫
This wiki will soon be able to use the inline audio player implemented by the Phonos extension. This is part of fulfilling a wishlist proposal of providing audio links that play on click.
With the inline audio player, you can add text-to-speech audio snippets to wiki pages by simply using a tag:
<phonos file="audio file" label="Listen"/>
The above tag will show the text next to a speaker icon, and clicking on it will play the audio instantly without taking you to another page. A common example where you can use this feature is in adding pronunciation to words as illustrated on the English Wiktionary below.
{{audio|en|En-uk-English.oga|Audio (UK)}}
Could become:
<phonos file="En-uk-English.oga" label="Audio (UK)"/>
The inline audio player will be available in your wiki in 2 weeks time; in the meantime, we would like you to read about the features and give us feedback or ask questions about it in this talk page.
Thank you!UOzurumba (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Language team
2023
對 たい Vector 2022嘅意見 いけん [編輯 へんしゅう ]
粵文
我 わが 認 みとめ 同 どう ,明 あきら 明 あきら 「加 か 跨 またが 語 ご 言 げん 連結 れんけつ 」同 どう 語 かたり 言 げん 有 ゆう 關 せき ,但 ただし 又 また 唔放落「加 か 語 ご 言 げん 」嘅範圍 はんい ,確實 かくじつ 有 ゆう 少少 しょうしょう 怪 かい ,不 ふ 過 か 呢個問題 もんだい 唔係粵文維基獨 どく 有 ゆう ,我見 がけん 英文 えいぶん 維基都 と 係 がかり 一 いち 樣 よう 。針 はり 對 たい 粵文維基,我 わが 覺 さとし 得 とく 最大 さいだい 問題 もんだい 係 がかり 粵文維基有 ゆう 啲字未 み 譯 わけ 好 こう ,例 れい 如左邊 あたり 「Main menu」,右邊 うへん 「Tools」、「Actions」、「Subscribe」、「General」都 と 需要 じゅよう 譯 やく 返 かえし 粵文。- --Yaukasin (
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 8月 がつ 11號 ごう (五 ご ) 15:15 (UTC)- @SGrabarczuk (WMF): Simon, can you please look into this? It seems that the
加 か 語 ご 言 げん (add language) button on the top right of a new page in Vector 2022 doesn't work. 翹仔 (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 16號 ごう (六 ろく ) 21:23 (UTC)- Hey @Deryck Chan. Thanks for pinging me. When I click "Add languages", there's a link "Edit interlanguage links" which goes to Wikidata. What's the issue exactly, @Jason6698 and @Yaukasin? What I've described is not visible for you, or are you expecting something different?
- Sorry for asking such basic questions, perhaps you have described this already, but I think that the machine translation doesn't give a precise answer.
- Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 18號 ごう (一 いち ) 23:13 (UTC)- For pages just created which have not linked to any Wikidata items yet (or any pages in Special:UnconnectedPages), no "Edit interlanguage links" is shown at "Add languages". Jason6698 (
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 23號 ごう (六 ろく ) 01:27 (UTC)- @Jason6698, I agree that it's a pain. I've managed to find out that this task: T329570 documents this need. Some information is also in T282026 and T310259#8610478. As it turns out, it's not just about the skin, but more about Wikidata. I will contact people who may know the details better. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 29號 ごう (五 ご ) 16:55 (UTC)
- @Jason6698, I agree that it's a pain. I've managed to find out that this task: T329570 documents this need. Some information is also in T282026 and T310259#8610478. As it turns out, it's not just about the skin, but more about Wikidata. I will contact people who may know the details better. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
- For pages just created which have not linked to any Wikidata items yet (or any pages in Special:UnconnectedPages), no "Edit interlanguage links" is shown at "Add languages". Jason6698 (
- @Deryck Chan, @Yaukasin: 查實
加 か 語 ご 言 げん 彈 だん 出 で 嚟個menu度 ど 有 ゆう 個 こ 「改 あらため 跨 またが 語 ご 言 げん 拎」掣,彈 だん 你去維基數 すう 據 よりどころ 度 ど 加 か 。不 ふ 過 か 同意 どうい 要 よう 令 れい 原 はら 有 ゆう 個 こ 「加 か 跨 またが 語 ご 言 げん 連結 れんけつ 」選 せん 項 こう 更 さら 加 か 易 えき 搵。 H78c67c·傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 18號 ごう (一 いち ) 00:29 (UTC)- @H78c67c 你講嘅情
況 きょう 只 ただ 適用 てきよう 於已經連 けいれん 咗過維基數 すう 據 よりどころ 項目 こうもく 嘅文(無論 むろん 有 ゆう 冇其他 た 語 ご 言 げん 嘅文),未 み 連 れん 維基數 すう 據 よりどころ 項目 こうもく 嘅就只 ただ 會 かい 顯示 けんじ 「Translate this page」同 どう 「開 ひらき 語 ご 言 げん 設定 せってい 」兩 りょう 項 こう 。--Yaukasin (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 29號 ごう (五 ご ) 15:24 (UTC)
- @H78c67c 你講嘅情
- @SGrabarczuk (WMF): Simon, can you please look into this? It seems that the
- Vector 2022 嘅
問題 もんだい 喺窄熒幕比較 ひかく 明 あかり 顯 あらわ ,如果有 ゆう 做開編 へん 輯或者 しゃ 設計 せっけい 所以 ゆえん 因 いん 為 ため 工作 こうさく 需要 じゅよう 熒幕擺咗打 だ 楝 おうち ,應 おう 該會留意 りゅうい 到 いた Vector 2022 嘅內文 ぶん 部分 ぶぶん 係 がかり 窄到唔合理 ごうり ;佢本來 ほんらい 問題 もんだい 冇咁嚴重 げんじゅう ,幾 いく 個月 かげつ 前 まえ (?)改 あらため 咗左右 さゆう 都 と 有 ゆう side menu,變 へん 咗唔係 がかり 超 ちょう 闊熒幕 まく 根本 こんぽん 用 よう 唔到。(我 わが 而今用 よう Timeless,對 たい 窄熒幕 まく 用 よう 家來 けらい 講 こう ,介 かい 面 めん 算 さん 係 がかり 最 さい 正常 せいじょう 。) - 呢個
問題 もんだい 應 おう 該係冇解,係 かかり 佢哋開發 かいはつ 人員 じんいん 唔 check 熒幕夠唔夠位就亂擺嘢,迷信 めいしん 全 ぜん 世界 せかい 都 と 用 よう 緊打橫 よこ 放 ひ 嘅超闊熒幕 まく 。去 さ Fabricator報 ほう 問題 もんだい 亦 また 根本 こんぽん 係 がかり 嘥時間 あいだ 。Al12si (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2023年 ねん 9月 がつ 20號 ごう (三 さん ) 20:49 (UTC)
Review the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello all,
I am pleased to share the next step in the Universal Code of Conduct work. The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) draft charter is now ready for your review.
The Enforcement Guidelines require a Building Committee form to draft a charter that outlines procedures and details for a global committee to be called the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). Over the past few months, the U4C Building Committee worked together as a group to discuss and draft the U4C charter. The U4C Building Committee welcomes feedback about the draft charter now through 22 September 2023. After that date, the U4C Building Committee will revise the charter as needed and a community vote will open shortly afterward.
Join the conversation during the conversation hours or on Meta-wiki.
Best,
RamzyM (WMF), on behalf of the U4C Building Committee, 2023
Temporary accounts for unregistered editors[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Read this in your language • 請幫
In 2024, editors who have not registered an account will automatically begin using temporary accounts. These editors are sometimes called "IP editors" because the IP address is displayed in the page history.
The Trust and Safety Product team gave a presentation at Wikimania about this change. You can watch it on YouTube.
There is more information at m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
Opportunities open for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission, and the Case Review Committee [編輯 へんしゅう ]
You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.
Hi everyone! The Affiliations Committee (AffCom), Ombuds commission (OC), and the Case Review Committee (CRC) are looking for new members. These volunteer groups provide important structural and oversight support for the community and movement. People are encouraged to nominate themselves or encourage others they feel would contribute to these groups to apply. There is more information about the roles of the groups, the skills needed, and the opportunity to apply on the Meta-wiki page.
On behalf of the Committee Support team,
維基媒體 ばいたい 基金 ききん 會 かい 2024年度 ねんど 理事 りじ 遴選規則 きそく 章程 しょうてい 公 こう 佈暨咨詢啟 けい 事 ごと [編輯 へんしゅう ]
維基
2023
Coming soon: Reference Previews[編輯 へんしゅう ]
A new feature is coming to your wiki soon: Reference Previews are popups for references. Such popups have existed on wikis as local gadgets for many years. Now there is a central solution, available on all wikis, and consistent with the PagePreviews feature.
Reference Previews will be visible to everyone, including readers. If you don’t want to see them, you can opt out. If you are using the gadgets Reference Tooltips or Navigation Popups, you won’t see Reference Previews unless you disable the gadget.
Reference Previews have been a beta feature on many wikis since 2019, and a default feature on some since 2021. Deployment is planned for November 22.
- Help page
- Project page with more information (in English).
- Feedback is welcome on this talk page.
-- For Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team,
Johanna Strodt (WMDE), 2023
記 き 得 とく 備份出面 でづら 連結 れんけつ [編輯 へんしゅう ]
中 ちゅう 文 ぶん 版 ばん 翻譯 ほんやく 過 か 來 らい 系統 けいとう 問題 もんだい [編輯 へんしゅう ]
翻譯 ほんやく 緊文章 ぶんしょう 會 かい 因 いん 版本 はんぽん 變 へん 唔顯示 けんじ [編輯 へんしゅう ]
(New) Feature on Kartographer: Adding geopoints via QID[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Since September 2022, it is possible to create geopoints using a QID. Many wiki contributors have asked for this feature, but it is not being used much. Therefore, we would like to remind you about it. More information can be found on the project page. If you have any comments, please let us know on the talk page. – Best regards, the team of Technical Wishes at Wikimedia Deutschland
Thereza Mengs (WMDE) 2023
Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder?[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Apologies for writing in English.
The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.
- The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
- Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
- Compensation is available.
- Sessions will be held in January and February.
- Sign up here if you are interested.
- Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.
We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)
Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.
Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form.
Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.
The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.
For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview.
We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Feminism and Folklore 2024[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Dear Wiki Community,
You are humbly invited to organize the Feminism and Folklore 2024 writing competition from February 1, 2023, to March 31, 2023 on your local Wikipedia. This year, Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's issues, and gender-focused topics for the project, with a Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus and a folk culture theme on Wikipedia.
You can help Wikipedia's coverage of folklore from your area by writing or improving articles about things like folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer folklore figures, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales, and more. Users can help create new articles, expand or translate from a generated list of suggested articles.
Organisers are requested to work on the following action items to sign up their communities for the project:
- Create a page for the contest on the local wiki.
- Set up a campaign on CampWiz tool.
- Create the local list and mention the timeline and local and international prizes.
- Request local admins for site notice.
- Link the local page and the CampWiz link on the meta project page.
This year, the Wiki Loves Folklore Tech Team has introduced two new tools to enhance support for the campaign. These tools include the Article List Generator by Topic and CampWiz. The Article List Generator by Topic enables users to identify articles on the English Wikipedia that are not present in their native language Wikipedia. Users can customize their selection criteria, and the tool will present a table showcasing the missing articles along with suggested titles. Additionally, users have the option to download the list in both CSV and wikitable formats. Notably, the CampWiz tool will be employed for the project for the first time, empowering users to effectively host the project with a jury. Both tools are now available for use in the campaign. Click here to access these tools
Learn more about the contest and prizes on our project page. Feel free to contact us on our meta talk page or by email us if you need any assistance.
We look forward to your immense coordination.
Thank you and Best wishes,
--MediaWiki message delivery (
Wiki Loves Folklore is back![編輯 へんしゅう ]
請幫
Dear Wiki Community, You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 31st of March.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.
Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
-- MediaWiki message delivery (
Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello all,
I am reaching out to you today to announce that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.
The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.
Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.
On behalf of the UCoC Project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
A new feature for previewing references on your wiki[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Apologies for writing in English. If you can translate this message, that would be much appreciated.
Hi. As announced some weeks ago [1] [2], Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team introduced Reference Previews to many wikis, including this one. This feature shows popups for references in the article text.
While this new feature is already usable on your wiki, most people here are not seeing it yet because your wiki has set a gadget as the default for previewing references. We plan to remove the default flag from the gadget on your wiki soon. This means:
- The new default for reference popups on your wiki will be Reference Previews.
- However, if you want to keep using the gadget, you can still enable it in your personal settings.
The benefit of having Reference Previews as the default is that the user experience will be consistent across wikis and with the Page Previews feature, and that the software will be easier to maintain overall.
This change is planned for February 14. If you have concerns about this change, please let us know on this talk page by February 12. – Kind regards, Johanna Strodt (WMDE), 2024- Hello and apologies for writing in English again. I have a little update on my message from January:
- Based on feedback we received, we have changed our plans – we won’t change the default here, because your wiki is not a global sysop wiki. Instead, we would like to encourage you to do it yourself. I am taking the liberty of notifying your wiki’s admins in this message: @Deryck Chan, @Detective Akai, @Dr. Greywolf, @H78c67c, @HenryLi, @Lam3011, @Pokman817, @SC96, @Shinjiman, @WikiCantona, @Z423x5c6, @
濫用 らんよう 過 か 濾器 - If you would like us to help you, you can let us know on this talk page. Any questions or comments, please let me know on the same talk page. -- Best, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2024年 ねん 2月 がつ 16號 ごう (五 ご ) 09:56 (UTC) - Reference Previews
取 と 代 だい 咗 Reference Tooltips作為 さくい 預 あずか 設 しつらえ 引用 いんよう 預 あずか 覽 らん 功 こう 能 のう 。如果有 ゆう 任 にん 何 なん 問題 もんだい ,請隨時 じ 提出 ていしゅつ 可 か 以 rollback。Reference Previews有 ゆう 以下 いか 幾 いく 點 てん 唔同:- Reference Previews
同 どう 現有 げんゆう 嘅 Page Previews設定 せってい 集中 しゅうちゅう 埋 うめ 一齊 いっせい - Where applicable,
個 こ popup有 ゆう 個 こ icon同 どう 寫 うつし 明 あかり 係 がかり 咩類型 がた 嘅參考 さんこう - Nested previews 唔 work
- 冇得
再 さい 控 ひかえ 制 せい hover delay,同 どう Page Previews統一 とういつ
- Reference Previews
- H78c67c·
傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ 2024年 ねん 2月 がつ 27號 ごう (二 に ) 08:22 (UTC)
Last days to vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello all,
I am reaching out to you today to remind you that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) charter will close on 2 February 2024. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.
The current version of the U4C charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.
Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.
On behalf of the UCoC Project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Dear all,
Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.
A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.
Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.
On behalf of the UCoC Project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024: We are back![編輯 へんしゅう ]
請幫
Hello, dear Wikipedians!
Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the forth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 1st until 31st March 2024. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contribution in every language! The most active contesters will receive prizes.
We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! ValentynNefedov (WMUA) (talk)
Notetag故障 こしょう [編輯 へんしゅう ]
@Shinjiman、H78c67c:
- @Cwingsum:
對 たい 唔住,我 わが 前 まえ 幾 いく 日 にち 更新 こうしん NoteTag嘅時候 じこう 冇察覺 さとし 到 いた 呢個問題 もんだい ,而家應 おう 該整返 かえし 好 こう 咗。 H78c67c·傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ 2024年 ねん 3月 がつ 2號 ごう (六 ろく ) 21:54 (UTC)
Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello all,
I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.
Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.
Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.
On behalf of the UCoC project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Dear all,
This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
- May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
- June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
- June-August 2024: Campaign period
- End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
- October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
- Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.
Election Volunteers
Another way to be involved with the 2024 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page.
Best regards,
Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.
MPossoupe_(WMF)2024
Category:喺維基數 きすう 據 よりどころ 度 ど 無 な [編輯 へんしゅう ]
修理 しゅうり 好 こう 咗。 h78c67c (傾 かたぶけ 偈 げ ) 2024年 ねん 4月 がつ 1號 ごう (一 いち ) 17:25 (UTC)
Vote now to select members of the first U4C[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Dear all,
I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.
Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.
On behalf of the UCoC project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
Sign up for the language community meeting on May 31st, 16:00 UTC[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Hello all,
The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks - May 31st at 16:00 UTC. If you're interested, you can sign up on this wiki page.
This is a participant-driven meeting, where we share language-specific updates related to various projects, collectively discuss technical issues related to language wikis, and work together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, the topics included the machine translation service (MinT) and the languages and models it currently supports, localization efforts from the Kiwix team, and technical challenges with numerical sorting in files used on Bengali Wikisource.
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MediaWiki message delivery 2024
Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle[編輯 へんしゅう ]
Dear community members,
The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.
You can find the details on this page, as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on June 23, 2024, anywhere on Earth.
You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.
On behalf of the CAC,
RamzyM (WMF) 2024
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Read this in your language • 請幫
Hi everyone! We are the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. We work on making it easier to read Wikimedia projects as part of the objective "Reading and media experience" of the current year’s annual plan. To achieve this goal, we have introduced the "Accessibility for Reading" beta feature. It adds a menu which works on the Vector 2022 skin and allows logged-in users to choose different font sizes and color schemes based on individual needs.
The menu introduces a new Standard font setting. It slightly increases the size and height of the font. It was selected based on multiple sources. You will find more information on this in the section "About the new Standard font setting".
What will change
- We are now ready to make the new Appearance menu available for logged-out and logged-in users.
- At the same time, we will also make the Standard option the new default for logged-out users only.
- If no breaking technical issues are found, we plan on making this change within the next two weeks.
- Later, this menu will also include the option to select dark mode, which for the time being will remain a beta feature. For more information, check out our project page.
The new menu will allow logged-in and logged-out users to set preferences for:
- Text size and line height (available now as a beta feature): Users will be able to choose between the Small (current default), Standard (recommended for better accessibility), and Large options. Selecting an option will change both the font size and line height of the text.
- Dark mode (available now as a beta feature): Users will be able to choose to see the site in night mode on a permanent basis, or select an "automatic" setting which will set day or night mode based on the device or browser preferences.
- Content width (previously available as a toggle button): We have moved the content width toggle from an icon at the bottom of the page to a labeled radio button in the new menu. It will work exactly the same as the toggle. The previous toggle button will no longer be available.
This menu has been tested as a beta feature by logged-in users across wikis as well as in user testing with readers. Based on the findings of these tests, we changed the menu to improve discoverability and ease of use, and to accommodate gadget compatibility.
The menu will appear to the right of the page, immediately under the Tools menu if that has been pinned. Unlike the Tools menu, the Appearance menu is pinned by default, but can be unpinned. Once unpinned, it collapses under an icon at the top of the page.
The "Small" option is the current default. We will be changing this default to "Standard" for logged-out users, while keeping "Small" as the default for logged-in users. The "Standard" and "Large" options were built and tested based on the following:
- Academic studies and recommendations for the best average font size for the majority of readers. These recommendations stated that our current size is too small for the majority of people to read comfortably. This means that on average, people read more slowly, strain their eyes while reading, or have difficulty clearly seeing the text. Increasing the font size by default improves these issues for all users, including users who might not have sufficient time to spend adjusting a setting via the appearance menu or browser. Information density is also important, which is why we wanted to increase font size without sacrificing information density. We have achieved this by changing not only font size, but also line height and paragraph spacing.
- Designs submitted by more than 630 Wikipedians from across 13 wikis of different languages, scripts, and sizes. The majority (~450) of these users opted for a font size that was larger than the default. "Standard" represents the average of the most popular cluster of responses (15-20 pixels). "Large" represents the need for an even larger option, as represented by the cluster of sizes between 21-26 pixels. You can read more on how we included volunteers in the process and landed on these options.
- Beta feature usage showed that the majority of users who interact with the feature at least once opt for a font size that is larger than the current default.
Our works so far and next steps
Logged-in users will remain with the "small" setting for the time being as their default, but can change to any other setting at any time. In a few months, we will study how many logged-in users switch to standard and start a conversation on whether it makes sense for logged-in users to make the switch as well. From the early data from the beta feature, 55% of sessions who interacted with the feature chose to use a setting that was standard or larger.
If you'd like to help, we have a few simple requests for you:
- Please, turn on the beta feature ("Accessibility for Reading (Vector 2022)")
- Try out the new menu. Is anything confusing? Do you understand all the labels and how the menu works?
- Try out the small, standard, and large sizes, the color schemes, and the width toggle. Reach out to us if you notice any bugs, or have questions or concerns.
If you'd like to learn more about the project, see our FAQ. Comments and questions are most welcome. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (